I'm afraid it'll be a while before we have anything new ready...
At this moment, the Zerion comic is the only comic we're working on. That has been the case for a long time now, but it's only since very recently that G9 has found a little more time again to work on this hobby. The Zerion story has been reworked a lot. It started as G9's personal pet project that was as softcore as can be. Let's call this version A.
To make it more interesting for release, it gained MC elements and got a lot sexier. This version of the comic got quite far in its development. The last version I received (beginning of january) contained 82 pages. Let's call this version B.
It was then that G9 got so incredibly busy again and work was at a complete standstill. During this time, G9 decided that the story was still too vanilla for you guys to truly enjoy (and be worth the long wait), so the story received a major overhaul again.
That's more or less the current version of the story. (Version C) It got darker, it gained more characters and it gained more storylines. The problem now was that the story was pretty much all over the place. It was a patchwork of old and new material and was pure chaos. We have now fixed this as best as currently possible. This means that we have focused first on the earlier parts of the story, reusing as many pages from version B as possible. (A waste not to use them, right?) But version C is still not even as far advanced in its story as version B was. That means that even I have no idea what the story is going to do or how big it will be in the end.
I'm getting frequent updates, so I can assure everyone that we ARE working on this comic, no matter how much it may appear as if we've disappeared completely. When G9 does have time, he can produce pages like crazy; when he doesn't have time, everything is at a standstill again. As so often, it's impossible to predict when we'll be done, but we're certainly not anywhere close to being done yet.
G9 I do not hope to hurt you in any way but I hope my honest remarks will help you in one way or another going forward.
I feel that G9's story and art is still better than Shinra (perhaps this comes from experience from starting earlier) but this gap has been closing such that it is now very slight.
However, I believe that G9 must learn from Shinra in terms of management.
The fact that Shinra is able to make the tough call to cancel one of his series for the sake of his main series demonstrates how he has grown. He is now able to place much more focus on The Fallen Star as a result. I think G9 has much to learn from Shinra in this aspect of sacrifice.
G9 has definitely bitten off more than he can chew. Mpgrey and G9 claims that they can finish smaller projects quicker than larger ones. Lets be honest... that's why they are called smaller projects. However, that does not change the fact that it pushes back his main project-GAIA Rangers.
I mean lets make this clear. From filthy fantasy VII, to Violet, to SR-0 (supposedly 1 part), to ANOTHER Violet, to ANOTHER filthy fantasy, to Crypt Raider, to Sin Fighter, to SR-0 (now it's 2 parts!), to Zerion, to SR-0 (now it's 3 parts... hopefully?). I think we might not realise how egregious and unacceptable the delay for GAIA Rangers is until we look at this whole laundry list.
Of course I am not taking credit away from G9, his small projects are good but what my point is that he created them sacrificing his MAIN PROJECT-GAIA Rangers. God knows when we last heard about it.
I truly and sincerely hope this post would be a wake-up call and for G9 to learn from Shinra to make the difficult decision of cancelling certain projects to focus his attention on his main project even if he has completed 99% of the former, the 1% will still take time at the expense of GAIA Rangers.
that's nonsense. The smaller stories aren't getting in the way of the larger ones. he's said this before.
if anything, the smaller stories are needed because you can't keep writing the same characters for years. you need to do other things to keep the creative juices flowing.
i love Shinra's too but I think his story has maybe gone on a bit TOO long. as in too many chapters and introducing way too many side stories. I think he's gotten a LOT better as his newest part was the best yet.
sorry, I can't wait for Zerion. hope it's out soon!
Clueless anonymous above I don't think u understand the concept of scarcity. Time is limited and suppose if you spend 2 hours a day on the smaller stories, it means those 2 hours could have been used on the main one instead. I would call this getting in the way.
Compared to G9's various small stories, Shinra only has 4 stories. And he terminated one of them so he can focus on his main story. So,thank you for substantiating my point. After terminating Yoru no Majin, he could spend more time on Fallen Star which is perhaps why it gets better.
"you can't keep writing the same characters for years"- Anonymous above perhaps u can visit this link
and do the math on how many years it has been since GAIA Rangers has been released. While you are at it, perhaps you can also enlighten us on how many "delays" it has experienced halfwit. Promise after promise of a story being short was broken one after another. It just proves that G9 cannot manage his comics and timeline.
E.g: SR-0 was supposed to be one chapter, then 2 and now 3. Who is to say that it won't be four? Guess what? According to Mpgrey, Zerion has been extended! "But version C is still not even as far advanced in its story as version B was. That means that even I have no idea what the story is going to do or how big it will be in the end." Sounds familiar? Hint: Another comic becoming bigger than originally intended!
FML
Therefore, G9 please drop your smaller stories and SR-0 and go back to GAIA Rangers.
I still think G9MP is not taking the wrong direction. Corruption story have higher value than money scene IMO. But, it is indeed a bit sad when G9MP is pending SR saga further and further.
I have suggestion. Maybe the smaller project is just like how you did with "SR0 Deleted Scene". Polish from unpublished work, since we heard G9MP (yes, you both) is OCD/perfectionist/Whatever is that.
But hey, it is an hobby afterall. They could do whatever they want. And I don't know how hard is the "polish" is. Just saying my opinion, still like both of you guys whatever you choose. Best of luck.
Thanks for the comments, everyone. Although it's mainly criticism, you're voicing your opinions out of concern for the comics with the best interest in mind.
As the comments are directed at G9 himself, I won't butt in with my own viewpoints too much, and I hope G9 will give you his own answers. However, there still are a few counter-arguments I can make.
The comparison with Shinra having the guts to drop one of his series in favor of TFS is not really valid. Shinra cancelled a story that he wasn't truly enjoying to be making. Only TFS is 100% his own story; the other three are commissions where his own ideas need to blend with the ideas of the client. With Yoru no Majin, Shinra needed to step out of his comfort zone more than he was truly enjoying. With spare time becoming increasingly precious and rare, he wants to make what he wants to make...and not what he does not really want to make.
This is completely different from our comics. All those short stories only exist because G9 felt like making them. Only Sin Fighters is a commissioned work, but that comic was made fairly quickly without any mishaps (not even 2 months, if memory serves.) But literally all other comics since Gaia 5 have only been started and finished purely because G9 felt like making them when he did. As an anonymous above correctly mentions, G9 simply needs these breaks. I'd much rather have preferred to continue with (and complete) SR0 after the second chapter, but that simply did not work for G9. This is something that simply cannot be explained and will be different for every artist. Some get into a flow and feel that the pages come together more naturally; others run into a wall and need to work on something completely different before returning to the story later. G9 is clearly of the second category and that is just a fact that we (me included) need to accept. Yes, he is horrible at managing all these multiple comics, but at least he is having fun making the comic that he is working on at any particular moment. He has no desire to go pro. He is just a random guy with a pc with rendering software and some good ideas who shares what he makes with the rest of the world. I know the argument of "it's just a hobby" is used so much that it loses impact, but that really is all there is to it. He has even less time available for this hobby than Shinra has; should we really be telling him what he should and shouldn't do with this time?
About SR0, I can't stress that enough: it was never the intention to grow to this size. If we had realized that in advance, there is NO way that we would have made it. The initial script was super simple and would've led to a comic with more or less the same number of pages as our other short stories. It all went different than expected though. The scope got much bigger and we could put so many ideas in there and make them work. Bottom line: G9 and I are very proud of what SR0 has become and we're not going to abandon this story right before the finale. There won't be a sudden 4th chapter; the remaining story is not big enough.
Mpgrey your constant arguments of needing a break holds lesser and lesser weight with each passing day. Unless you tell us straight up that G9 needed to take a break from GAIA Rangers for 3 years and beyond here, then perhaps it would be acceptable. But then again, if you were a rational person I think you would find it rather absurd to even put that down in writing. I mean it has been 3 years my friend. That is over a thousand days.
Nobody is asking you to forsake your work in SR-0. To abandon means to give up on it completely. I can't speak for other people but at least what I hope is for you guys to continue GAIA Rangers, complete it and then go back to SR-0. I think the fans deserve at least this much for waiting for over 3 years.
Indeed, G9 does this as a hobby and for free. For that he would forever have my respect. However, I feel that after so many delays to GAIA Rangers, I think it would be a good time to resume it now even if it means dropping other projects temporarily. The fans deserve at least this much...
G9 I understand that u lost your data after GAIA 5 and had to restart all over in terms of the model etc. I know it's difficult to start from scratch which might be a contributing factor to you doing other projects. However, be brave. We all have to start from somewhere! If you could, resuming GAIA 6 now would be splendid!
yes G9 please do go back to gaia rangers now instead of continuing the rest. You can come back to them later no problem. Gaia ranger was your best project yet (even better than sr-0) in terms of story and character etc. please return to work on gaia
g9 it has been too long since we have since the Dark Emperor in action together with corrupted GAIA pink and yellow, GAIA black, blue and red. (PS cant remember all their names because it has been too long since the last chapter)
So please resume GAIA 6 now. I am sure many fans would appreciate it and would want SR-0 to be paused instead for GAIA Rangers to end first
Agreed. G9 and mpgrey I know that you do this as a hobby and not a job and of course it is your right to choose what you want to do. But it has been 3 years. And it would be great if you could take the opinions of your fans into account because I believe that G9 you are doing this for your fans as well which is why u are so awesome
"Nobody is asking you to forsake your work in SR-0. To abandon means to give up on it completely. I can't speak for other people but at least what I hope is for you guys to continue GAIA Rangers, complete it and then go back to SR-0. I think the fans deserve at least this much for waiting for over 3 years." -Agreed
Some of you seem to be mixing up facts. We wanted to tell the SR0 story before continuing with Gaia 6. The whole purpose of SR0 to begin with is to better create the universe in which Gaia takes place and to make story upon which Gaia 6 can be built without needing to rely on endless flashbacks.
So it's not that G9 needed a break from Gaia and that break is already lasting 3 years; the unforeseen length of the SR0 story together with the breaks G9 is taking inbetween the SR0 chapters is what has caused the 3 year wait. The result is the same, but it's wrong to claim that G9 has taken a 3 year (and counting) break.
This is why I want to continue with SR0 so much: partly because of the SR0 story itself, but mostly because it clears the way for Gaia again.
The universe for GAIA is fine as it is. After reading SR-0 part 1 and 2, I don't see how it would make a significant difference to GAIA 6 other than the substantial delays it has resulted
Yeah mpgrey. I think you will need to first acknowledge that the fans are getting irritated at SR-0 no matter how good it is as it is getting in the way of GAIA 6.
The next thing you need to acknowledge is whether you will continue to ignore the fans' pleas for GAIA 6 to be resumed now or that you will continue with SR-0 despite our requests.
Let's be honest here. It's already almost April now. If you continue to be adamant about releasing SR-0 part 3 and Zerion, GAIA's 6 release date will be probably be an absurd 2018. That's 6 years after GAIA 5 by the way. I think even you cannot deny how preposterous this sounds.
You might be wondering how I came to this date. Firstly, it's already almost April as mentioned earlier. Secondly, taking reference from SR-0 part 1 and 2, it took over a year to release part 2 after part 1. Third, G9 lost all his data after GAIA 5 so he has to start from scratch for GAIA 6 in terms of models etc. Fourth, as we are all too familiar with delays here, I think even 2018 is quite a generous estimation on my part.
Therefore, I think this is what they call an ultimatum which you will need to answer. Will you accede to your fans' requests to continue GAIA 6 NOW or disappoint them again?
Complete agree with this: "Therefore, I think this is what they call an ultimatum which you will need to answer. Will you accede to your fans' requests to continue GAIA 6 NOW or disappoint them again?"
Indeed, I think mpgrey needs to make this clear to all of us. It has been 3 years already. Using "unforeseen length of SR-0" as a justification is pointless as it is about choice. I think from all of the comments recently, the fans have made it clear that it is about choice. You can temporarily delay SR-0 as you have done with GAIA 6 in the past and go back to GAIA 6 now. I am sure the fans would love that.
Mpgrey claims, "This is why I want to continue with SR0 so much: partly because of the SR0 story itself, but mostly because it clears the way for Gaia again." I don't see how it clears the way for GAIA. From my opinion, it merely pushes back GAIA for another few years which is ridiculous considering how long it has been.
Personally, if continuing SR-0 is YOUR choice mpgrey where you ignore all our comments, I would say I am thoroughly disappointed and I will stop checking this blog anymore as there is no point in it since you can't take constructive criticism.
G9/mpgrey the delay for gaia 6 is very different from the few weeks/months of delay for each of your other release that happens every time. Just the duration of this delay is too long. Please don't push gaia 6 back any more than it needs to. Now is the time to resume it!
3 years G9! D: I believe that you can still go back to GAIA Rangers now.
Nobody does a prequel before they are actually done with the main story as it will disrupt the storyline and also prevent fans from getting closure.
E.g: Peter Jackson only started work on the Hobbit after he was done with the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy
Another e.g: Wolverine only got his (shitty) origin story movie after the entire X-Men movie was completed
So G9, would u please consider dropping all your other projects no matter how much progress you have made on them to continue GAIA Rangers? I know it is difficult just as how Shinra had to terminate Yoru no Majin. However, I am not asking you to cancel or destroy them. You can come back to them later once GAIA is completed.
I have been with you for so many years waiting with each post hoping that there would be a post that says GAIA Rangers is getting released! But only to feel disappointment each time T.T I believe that in the past you said GAIA Rangers would only have 7 chapters if memory serves me right with talk of raven corruption, plant-based corruption etc (it was in one of your much older post! See? I told you I was with you for a long time!) So I feel GAIA Rangers is long overdue D: 3 years G9. 3 long years. Please don't make it a heart-wrenching 4.
Thank you for your love with Gaia Rangers. I know that, Gaia is G9Mp main comics. I realized that it's been too long. There are so many problems that make it looks like we abandoning it. The data loss incident, the render engine changes (3Delight -> Octane), some basic model changes (V4/M4 to Gen 2). And last but not least... getting stuck of idea (bored of the theme). Re-creating all the assets for GAIA is the main problem. With SR0-3, I step by step can create some of the characters (Leona, DE, Alayeh, Al, Vora, and original SR girls). I thought, you guys can enjoy the backstory, and also create a deep, wide lore of the Rangers universe. So, when I finish re-model all the assets, I can finish all the saga. But it'll take a long time, that's why I made other comics, so G9mpcomic would be still exist, while I'm preparing all the assets. But, if you want me to focus on Gaia, sure... I'll try. There won't be any comic while you are waiting for it. And it would be some time before it's getting release. Do you agree? To be honest, I don't feel comfortable when someone put a deadline / ultimatum like that. I do love Gaia like you do. I want to end the saga as something perfect, memorable, and accomplished comic. If I just want to release it as a cheap sequel, I can finish it in a week. Just bunch of tasteless corruption, few boring sex renders from few angles, and done. That's not what we want, right? In the end, as a conclusion. Okay, we'll release Gaia 6 before SR0-3. Postponed any other comics but it'll still take some time to finish it. How about that?
I hate to contribute to the growing animosity on this typically genuine and friendly blog, but it appears the same anonymous is posting multiple times to inflate his biased and self-centered opinion.
g9, I wouldn't mind not having any comics during the time you are preparing for GAIA 6. I think that time spent on it would be time well spent. Just hope that it will not get delayed any further because of work on other projects
Sounds like the same anonymous posting many comments pretending to from different people. Like most fans,I like Gaia but Shadow ranger 0 is great too. Hopefully, it will have some great corruption (artfully mixed with smoking hot sex scenes). I'm very curious for Zerion too and I wouldn't want G9 to post some half done job because someone feels he's more important than the rest and wants his favorite comic to be prioritized.
Wow, so much life suddenly in this otherwise pretty sleepy blog. Thank you everyone for still keeping it civil despite the growing negativity. Also thank you, G9, for posting your version of the story so that it doesn't seem that I'm making everything up.
What everyone should know and realize about Gaia 6 is that hardly anything of the story has been made. Save for a few ideas about major events, we're basically looking at a blank paper. As followers of this blog, you have likely read this somewhere before in other threads, but this is how we almost always work: not planning ahead but inventing on the spot. It's the only way both G9 and I can work.
If you look at the Shadow Rangers series or the first 4 chapters of Gaia, you can easily see this pattern. The story purely focuses on the events within the respective chapter and isn't setting anything up for later. It's a simple, haphazard way of making a story, and with G9's words in mind of how he can produce a chapter like that in about a week, you can also see why he was able to make the old Shadow Rangers chapters so quickly.
With Gaia 5, much more attention to the story was introduced. Characters were fleshed out a lot more to give them a human side with more personality. The structure of their universe, however, was still all over the place. It's full of loose ends, irregularities and paradoxes. The happy-go-lucky way of writing in the old chapters was coming back to haunt us.
That was the situation after Gaia 5 and before Gaia 6. G9 was getting bored of the old-fashioned structure so the bigger focus on story was going to remain, but (like always) the next chapter was hardly more than a blank paper AND we were stuck with a universe full of faults and holes. To top this all off, he had introduced a new major plot element in Gaia 5 (the elf fragments) that came out of nowhere and needed much better setting up if it was to be taken seriously.
All of this founded SR0: a way for us to both help us with the way ahead and to repair all the holes that were left behind. It's not just a fun distraction. It's not just a random flashback story. It is actually needed for the remainder of the Gaia story.
Unlike all other stories, SR0 has been written with a storyboard. Its goals were clear from the start. Then it was just a (cumbersome) matter of putting all puzzle pieces in the correct order to form the skeleton of the story, the backbone, the collection of all major story events. The reason for the "unforeseen length", as one anonymous has quoted me, is that the amount of additional scenes got bigger than anticipated. The bare bones (to keep the metaphor going) were there, but the amount of flesh was unforeseen. This same anonymous calls it a choice, but that is just partly true. You wouldn't like a bare bones story. The flesh is needed to make the major events stand out. We needed to see more scenes of the DSF base in chaos to really grasp that the base is in trouble. We needed to see more scenes with Megan's inner struggles to make her stand out as the main character. We needed to see a bit more of the elf world so that it's not just a palace inhabited by people with pointy ears.
But it's also why I can claim with certainty that there isn't enough story left for a fourth chapter: at least with this story, I know in advance what's going to happen and how and when it will end. Gaia, however, is still mostly a blank except for loose ideas.
What G9 and I are doing right now is checking if it's possible to write Gaia 6 in the manner that we want but without using story material from SR0-3. I can tell you that we already bumped into problems here. But we'll try to find a way out, mix things up, or push some things forward to Gaia 7. However, if it turns out that we need to go out of our intended way too much and end up with a chapter that doesn't satisfy us, then we're not going to sacrifice the Gaia story just to make it before SR0-3.
Yes, it's correct right? All of the important materials flashbacks are in SR0 1, 2 and (should be) in 3. Now, we are trying to figure to fit story in GAIA 6 that's not need something from SR0-part 3 but already in part 1 and 2 (so there won't be a paradox or plot hole). That's why we need to start everything from 0 again. I have finished modeled some of the important characters. If the "scripts" is finished, I can start rendering. So, yeah it's still a blank paper comics now. ^_^
I'll just add my two cents: I don't mind waiting for Sr-0 and I'm curious to see what Zerion will be like. I'd answer to one part of mpgrey's comment that I didn't really like. I think G9 did a very good job with the Shadow Ranger comics. Yes, it's nice that the plot is more developped with your comics but now we spend less time on the characters and their corruption. G9's old way of focusing on one character after the other was a good structure for a corruption comic too. Now, it's often too sequenced and we can't always get into it as well.
There is also less important sex scenes. In SR-0 we sometimes get secondary sex scenes that aren't linked to the transformation of the character we follow by the villain. We need the erotic content, the "sex" to go hand in hand with the corruption, otherwise we don't care for it, it's like pissing in the wind.
I love you work and I can't wait to see more of it, Either be it Sr-0 or Zerion, but I think that what I said could be useful.
Oh, but I didn't pass any judgment here. You don't here me saying that G9's old work was bad or anything. Don't forget that I started out as a hooked reader too, thanks to those same older chapters. I merely said that they have a very basic and simple structure. It's a structure that, in fact, lends itself perfectly for corruption comics. It's very focused on this one goal and is quick to get to the action. But it lends itself rather poorly to any sort of deeper story, to the making of a fictional world where characters are more than just "target girl from chapter 2" and little more than a collection of easy tropes and are as shallow as can be.
And the thing is, G9 doesn't always want to make these pure corruption stories. You can only repeat the same trick over and over before it starts feeling mundane. He wanted (and wants) more attention to the overall plot.
So it's perfectly okay to hold the Shadow Rangers series and the earlier Gaia chapters in high regard, but they were rather limited in a department that the artist has now found in works like SR-0. Who knows if he is (and I am) just going through a rebellious phase at the moment. ;P
But we don't really care much about the side characters. It's all main character's corruption and transformation. So the side characters just consume pages and are a distraction to me at least. Especially since their corruption is usually sub-par and they are weak.
Btw, the movie reference is actually quite appropriate LOL. Shadow rangers is the original, SR-0 is the prequel, GAIA is the sequel but it got stopped halfway... So please resume GAIA.
I think this would be the general sentiment as well IF G9 started SR-0 before GAIA, most would want SR-0 to be completed first before proceeding on the GAIA. So it's not about which is better, I would presume it's about closure especially after such a long lull period.
Wow!So many comments to an otherwise quiet post.I think this is a testament as to how many people feel strongly about GAIA rangers.I find it awesome how people are still passionate about GAIA rangers despite it being 3 years since the last chapter was released.Good job g9/mp!
I don't think that SR-0 is another story. For me, it is a flashback of GAIA (and shadow rangers). If he changes the title to GAIA 6 and has the same story as SR-0, just added the phrase "long time ago". Will it make you feel better? It is just the way to tell the story (like in Star wars). And SR-0 is really amazing comic (May be the best, but I love almost all your comics, so it is hard to tell). So of course, I prefer SR-0 3 or Zerion first. Let the artist do what he want always make the better work. And everyone love the better comics.
If G9 has made more progress in SR0-3 than GAIA 6, then he should definitely release that first. As he said, if he does GAIA 6 before SR0-3 he is pretty much starting from scratch...
Even if it's from scratch I still prefer g9 to release gaia first as sr0 will set gaia back by at least a year. So g9 please resume your main comics. After 3 years, I think it is finally time
The mere fact that he essentially has NOTHING done for GAIA pretty much assures it will take at least a year to release anyway. He even said that if he drops everything else it will still take a very long time to release.
I disagree that GAIA will be of poorer quality than GAIA. G9 has improved his rendering and images etc after 3 more years of experience. Thus, I feel not matter what project he works on, it will be good. It is just that I feel he has delayed GAIA for too long which has resulted in disappointment and annoyance from some. So G9 GAIA 6 please.
He has to start eventually, might as well start now. No point delaying GAIA any further. If he takes a year to release GAIA, at least it's not 2 years which will be the result of SR0. Let's be honest, the reason for such a substantial delay for GAIA Rangers is the result of all his other projects in the past 3 years. We have to acknowledge that 3 years is indeed an absurd amount of time to wait for his MAIN comic which stopped halfway out of nowhere and without a particularly compelling reason (Perhaps it's the fear of starting from scratch after losing his data). I hope after the massive reaction in this post, G9 will be stimulated to work on GAIA Rangers once again. Even if SR0 is near completion (say 80%) I would say even an additional day of delay on GAIA as a result of releasing SR0 is quite unacceptable as I think GAIA Rangers has been sacrificed for long enough. It is the MAIN series. It should take priority especially considering the fact that it has undergone such a massive delay
By the way, seriously... Is it true a verb for a pen is thrust? Not hold a pen? Isn't thrust mean something like stab? You know thrust a sword? Weew... English is so complex X.X
Agreed. G9 this is your hobby so you should do what you want. Some of these comments should serve as a testament that there are plenty of fans with the opposite opinion. Many clearly want to see Zerion and SR0.
Oh, one thing to be clarified is... It's not always true that when I did other comics is the reason why other comics getting postponed. The main reason why I made other comics is... -I got stuck with one comic -Have no idea to continue the comic -Have technical difficulty -Getting bored for the theme So, even if I don't make other comic, the "postponed" comic will still be postponed. That's why, even if I'm forced to do Gaia 6 first, it doesn't mean it'll be released very soon.
if you release gaia 6 first I think it should be obvious that even if the release wont be very soon its release will still be earlier than if you do zerion > sr0 > gaia 6
-I got stuck with one comic (u no longer have 1 comic now) -Have no idea to continue the comic (it has been 3 years I hope that 3 years is enough for new idea) -Have technical difficulty (hopefully 3 years is enough for you to overcome technical difficulty) -Getting bored for the theme (it has been 3 years, i think boredom should not be a problem now if not maybe we can only pray for divine intervention for gaia 6 release)
no point crying over spilled milk. gaia 6 has been delayed for 3 years that is a fact that cannot be denied. the crux is what will you do to remedy it. will you delay it further?
forced is a very strong word. nobody here can force you to do anything we are just readers, you are the author. you can decide tomorrow you will never make comics again and we cant do jack shit about it. you can do sr0 by all means but what i just want to highlight is with every single release you make that isn't gaia 6, you are disappointing many fans
fyi you have made 9 releases in the last 3 years ever since gaia 5. if there is one thing that i think u shld be to do is make your decision and make it promptly. don't put it off like how you do to gaia 6
Even though I wouldn't want to compel you in any way to release GAIA 6 first, I can't help but express my desire for it.
I have been waiting 3 years for it and all this talk about the possibility of it being released earlier than expected really fuels my excitement for it.
I really hope you will resume work on it and finish it before returning to shadow rangers 0
THis link brings back so much nostalgia and memories XD. I find it very comforting that there are people clamouring and pushing for GAIA 6 as I feel exactly the same. With each new release I felt hope and then despair when I saw the blog post that it isn't GAIA 6. Hoodwinked, bamboozled, deceived...G9/MP I hope you do right by those who have been going to the above link continuously and checking for updates in this agonizing 3 years only to be let down
BTW G9 if you are starting from scratch Mimi's new model in the link above is too hardcore. I mean skulls?!! I think your previous model as shown in the 2 links below is much better. Mimi is cute and a little naughty XD. Feathers > Skulls (D:)
Okay, I'll try my best to remodel her. The problem with feather is, it'll be also used by some other corrupted ranger, since it's bird related. So, it won't be fun if two corrupted rangers wear the same themed costume. But I'll consider not to put mimi on the hardcore themed outfit. I still try to find a sexy/gothic spider outfit (not spiderman >_<) Thanks for the idea.
This is a little embarrassing to be honest. It's obvious we have some people posting multiple times under "anonymous."
G9, don't listen to the people asking you to jump back into Gaia. You have your reasons for doing SR0 first and you should stick with that because that's what YOU want to do.
Obviously, you should finish and release Zerion first. It sounds like that's coming fairly soon and jumping all over the place would suck creatively.
So I'd say release Zerion, then SR0, then finally go back to Gaia as that seemed to be your original plan.
Those wanting Gaia now just need to suck it up and deal with it. This is all free, people. Stop being selfish.
I think it is quite pathetic Bob that you would include what g9 should or should not do. Aren't you doing the same things as all the comments above? I would call this the perfect example of pot calling the kettle black. I don't know how many anonymous there are but if you are going to assert your view I don't see how you even have the moral grounds to ask g9 not to listen to others. Suck it up if GAIA is released first.
G9 I agree that you can do a poll and we will clearly see if the traction for GAIA is truly substantial
SR0 can wait.I am sure after experiencing the long delay for GAIA,we are accustomed to waiting 3 years for something.So delay SR0 for a max of 3 years and in this 3 years finish up GAIA.I would think this is a good solution
G9 should do what he feels comfortable with. If he's experiencing writer's block or lack of interest in regards to GAIA then he should work on Zerion or SR0.
Pray to who ever you want. 3 years. 5 years. 10 years. There is no definite time span of writers block. And maybe he just has lack of interest in the story right now. If we feel the need to compel G9 in a certain direction and expect him to obey our dictated requests at the expense of his personal life and obligations...then maybe he should start charging a fee for the comics.
There is no need to sacrifice his personal life and obligations. Just SR0 will do. If he decides to release GAIA 6 5 years later, I would very much rather he not create anything else in this 5 years. Why? Because it is bloody ridiculous to delay your main production so significantly for a prequel halfway through the story. If u just started GAIA, fine. But GAIA is supposedly 2 chapters from ending and all of a sudden *poof* you compel fans to wait 5, 10 years for the next issue. You have no idea how many of such authors have been flamed. I think G9 would consider himself quite fortunate to have a relatively tolerant fanbase. If G9 claims to still lack interest in GAIA now, I will stop reading any of his publications because he would be laughingstock of all authors. Even those who are not as good as him. Such a Pity
Is that some kind of threat? If you're not satisfied then go elsewhere. The apparent lack of support and understanding of this fanbase is painful. G9 has no obligation to release or continue any of his stories. He takes no commissions and charges no fees.
Hey G9! It has been awhile. With all the talk about GAIA 6 I can't help but also throw my support under the GAIA bandwagon as I am a bigger GAIA fan than SR0! However, guys I think we should dial down the condescension and animosity towards G9. It is fine to voice your opinion and support but let's keep it civil before it gets out of hand
I think that he already knows that someone want GAIA 6 first, and someone want SR-0 or Zerion first. So that should be enough. Just stop discussion in this topic before it goes too far and let he do what he want, please.
Guys chill. What Long said above is right. We have made it known that we all have different opinions on what G9 should do. Just let it go and leave the final decision to him.
G9 it has been a long time since I posted anything here.
I have followed your works from the start of shadow rangers and honestly, I hope that gaia rangers will be wrapped up first before sr0 as the lack of closure for gaia rangers is quite unfortunate. Thank you and keep up the good work
For Zerion... Actually I want to release it as a single issue. It'll be a quite long comic, but to be honest, I do really enjoy it. This is the same case when I made Violet. It's purely what me, myself want to make. From the idea, characters, story, even the money scenes. And I'm quite sure you'll like it too, really. ^_^
So I guess you make the rules now? I'm pretty sure this is G9's site and his FREE comic. He can do (and should do) whatever he wants. We have no right to stop him from working on something he truly wants to make.
We can all say the same about you. I wonder how many of these "anonymous" posts are yours. The minute you start paying for these comics, you have a right to bitch all you want. In the meantime, stfu and grab a bra advertisement if you don't have anymore beat off material. Looks like we'll all be waiting for quite some time now since G9 has been pushed to his limit. Good job!
Haha so sorry when I meet dimwits like you I just cannot control the urge to correct u so for every single stupid post u have, I will have to reply. It's called enlighten-the-dumbass syndrome. Keep crying and whining about the wait time small boy. Learn some patience while u are at it. Ever heard the phrase pushing your limits? It's a positive thing moron :D Hope you learnt something useful today. Unfortunately, I don't think u can learn them from the bra advertisements u peruse ever so often
I love the last wohoo picture. Very sexy!
ReplyDeleteGreat new artwork
ReplyDeleteThank you, Mave.
DeleteYou are welcome, my friend. :-) I am very happy about each new artwork of you and specially if you have time doing specially something for me ... lol
DeleteNeed... new... g9... story... :(
ReplyDelete... soon?
ReplyDeleteI'm afraid it'll be a while before we have anything new ready...
DeleteAt this moment, the Zerion comic is the only comic we're working on. That has been the case for a long time now, but it's only since very recently that G9 has found a little more time again to work on this hobby.
The Zerion story has been reworked a lot. It started as G9's personal pet project that was as softcore as can be. Let's call this version A.
To make it more interesting for release, it gained MC elements and got a lot sexier. This version of the comic got quite far in its development. The last version I received (beginning of january) contained 82 pages. Let's call this version B.
It was then that G9 got so incredibly busy again and work was at a complete standstill. During this time, G9 decided that the story was still too vanilla for you guys to truly enjoy (and be worth the long wait), so the story received a major overhaul again.
That's more or less the current version of the story. (Version C) It got darker, it gained more characters and it gained more storylines. The problem now was that the story was pretty much all over the place. It was a patchwork of old and new material and was pure chaos.
We have now fixed this as best as currently possible. This means that we have focused first on the earlier parts of the story, reusing as many pages from version B as possible. (A waste not to use them, right?)
But version C is still not even as far advanced in its story as version B was. That means that even I have no idea what the story is going to do or how big it will be in the end.
I'm getting frequent updates, so I can assure everyone that we ARE working on this comic, no matter how much it may appear as if we've disappeared completely.
When G9 does have time, he can produce pages like crazy; when he doesn't have time, everything is at a standstill again.
As so often, it's impossible to predict when we'll be done, but we're certainly not anywhere close to being done yet.
and GAIA Rangers gets pushed back again! :D
DeleteOne eternity later...
DeleteWhats new? the only 2 people who are making above average corruption comics are always busy.
DeleteG9 I do not hope to hurt you in any way but I hope my honest remarks will help you in one way or another going forward.
DeleteI feel that G9's story and art is still better than Shinra (perhaps this comes from experience from starting earlier) but this gap has been closing such that it is now very slight.
However, I believe that G9 must learn from Shinra in terms of management.
http://h3ncomics.blogspot.sg/2015/05/because-they-say-no-news-is-good-news.html
The fact that Shinra is able to make the tough call to cancel one of his series for the sake of his main series demonstrates how he has grown. He is now able to place much more focus on The Fallen Star as a result. I think G9 has much to learn from Shinra in this aspect of sacrifice.
G9 has definitely bitten off more than he can chew. Mpgrey and G9 claims that they can finish smaller projects quicker than larger ones. Lets be honest... that's why they are called smaller projects. However, that does not change the fact that it pushes back his main project-GAIA Rangers.
I mean lets make this clear. From filthy fantasy VII, to Violet, to SR-0 (supposedly 1 part), to ANOTHER Violet, to ANOTHER filthy fantasy, to Crypt Raider, to Sin Fighter, to SR-0 (now it's 2 parts!), to Zerion, to SR-0 (now it's 3 parts... hopefully?). I think we might not realise how egregious and unacceptable the delay for GAIA Rangers is until we look at this whole laundry list.
Of course I am not taking credit away from G9, his small projects are good but what my point is that he created them sacrificing his MAIN PROJECT-GAIA Rangers. God knows when we last heard about it.
I truly and sincerely hope this post would be a wake-up call and for G9 to learn from Shinra to make the difficult decision of cancelling certain projects to focus his attention on his main project even if he has completed 99% of the former, the 1% will still take time at the expense of GAIA Rangers.
Please G9...
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Deletethat's nonsense. The smaller stories aren't getting in the way of the larger ones. he's said this before.
Deleteif anything, the smaller stories are needed because you can't keep writing the same characters for years. you need to do other things to keep the creative juices flowing.
i love Shinra's too but I think his story has maybe gone on a bit TOO long. as in too many chapters and introducing way too many side stories. I think he's gotten a LOT better as his newest part was the best yet.
sorry, I can't wait for Zerion. hope it's out soon!
Clueless anonymous above I don't think u understand the concept of scarcity. Time is limited and suppose if you spend 2 hours a day on the smaller stories, it means those 2 hours could have been used on the main one instead. I would call this getting in the way.
DeleteCompared to G9's various small stories, Shinra only has 4 stories. And he terminated one of them so he can focus on his main story. So,thank you for substantiating my point. After terminating Yoru no Majin, he could spend more time on Fallen Star which is perhaps why it gets better.
"you can't keep writing the same characters for years"- Anonymous above perhaps u can visit this link
http://g.e-hentai.org/?f_doujinshi=0&f_manga=0&f_artistcg=0&f_gamecg=0&f_western=0&f_non-h=0&f_imageset=0&f_cosplay=0&f_asianporn=0&f_misc=0&f_search=G9comics&f_apply=Apply+Filter
and do the math on how many years it has been since GAIA Rangers has been released. While you are at it, perhaps you can also enlighten us on how many "delays" it has experienced halfwit. Promise after promise of a story being short was broken one after another. It just proves that G9 cannot manage his comics and timeline.
E.g: SR-0 was supposed to be one chapter, then 2 and now 3. Who is to say that it won't be four?
Guess what? According to Mpgrey, Zerion has been extended! "But version C is still not even as far advanced in its story as version B was. That means that even I have no idea what the story is going to do or how big it will be in the end." Sounds familiar? Hint: Another comic becoming bigger than originally intended!
FML
Therefore, G9 please drop your smaller stories and SR-0 and go back to GAIA Rangers.
"Therefore, G9 please drop your smaller stories and SR-0 and go back to GAIA Rangers."
DeleteI agree completely with this. G9 it would be great if u took into account what your fans would like into your work as well
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Deleteyep I also hope G9 will drop his shadow rangers 0 and continue gaia rangers
DeleteYeah. A wake up indeed
Delete"Therefore, G9 please drop your smaller stories and SR-0 and go back to GAIA Rangers." - Agreed
DeleteI still think G9MP is not taking the wrong direction.
ReplyDeleteCorruption story have higher value than money scene IMO.
But, it is indeed a bit sad when G9MP is pending SR saga further and further.
I have suggestion. Maybe the smaller project is just like how you did with "SR0 Deleted Scene". Polish from unpublished work, since we heard G9MP (yes, you both) is OCD/perfectionist/Whatever is that.
But hey, it is an hobby afterall. They could do whatever they want. And I don't know how hard is the "polish" is. Just saying my opinion, still like both of you guys whatever you choose. Best of luck.
Thanks for the comments, everyone.
ReplyDeleteAlthough it's mainly criticism, you're voicing your opinions out of concern for the comics with the best interest in mind.
As the comments are directed at G9 himself, I won't butt in with my own viewpoints too much, and I hope G9 will give you his own answers.
However, there still are a few counter-arguments I can make.
The comparison with Shinra having the guts to drop one of his series in favor of TFS is not really valid.
Shinra cancelled a story that he wasn't truly enjoying to be making. Only TFS is 100% his own story; the other three are commissions where his own ideas need to blend with the ideas of the client. With Yoru no Majin, Shinra needed to step out of his comfort zone more than he was truly enjoying. With spare time becoming increasingly precious and rare, he wants to make what he wants to make...and not what he does not really want to make.
This is completely different from our comics. All those short stories only exist because G9 felt like making them. Only Sin Fighters is a commissioned work, but that comic was made fairly quickly without any mishaps (not even 2 months, if memory serves.)
But literally all other comics since Gaia 5 have only been started and finished purely because G9 felt like making them when he did. As an anonymous above correctly mentions, G9 simply needs these breaks.
I'd much rather have preferred to continue with (and complete) SR0 after the second chapter, but that simply did not work for G9. This is something that simply cannot be explained and will be different for every artist. Some get into a flow and feel that the pages come together more naturally; others run into a wall and need to work on something completely different before returning to the story later.
G9 is clearly of the second category and that is just a fact that we (me included) need to accept.
Yes, he is horrible at managing all these multiple comics, but at least he is having fun making the comic that he is working on at any particular moment. He has no desire to go pro. He is just a random guy with a pc with rendering software and some good ideas who shares what he makes with the rest of the world.
I know the argument of "it's just a hobby" is used so much that it loses impact, but that really is all there is to it. He has even less time available for this hobby than Shinra has; should we really be telling him what he should and shouldn't do with this time?
About SR0, I can't stress that enough: it was never the intention to grow to this size. If we had realized that in advance, there is NO way that we would have made it. The initial script was super simple and would've led to a comic with more or less the same number of pages as our other short stories.
It all went different than expected though. The scope got much bigger and we could put so many ideas in there and make them work.
Bottom line: G9 and I are very proud of what SR0 has become and we're not going to abandon this story right before the finale. There won't be a sudden 4th chapter; the remaining story is not big enough.
Mpgrey your constant arguments of needing a break holds lesser and lesser weight with each passing day. Unless you tell us straight up that G9 needed to take a break from GAIA Rangers for 3 years and beyond here, then perhaps it would be acceptable. But then again, if you were a rational person I think you would find it rather absurd to even put that down in writing. I mean it has been 3 years my friend. That is over a thousand days.
DeleteNobody is asking you to forsake your work in SR-0. To abandon means to give up on it completely. I can't speak for other people but at least what I hope is for you guys to continue GAIA Rangers, complete it and then go back to SR-0. I think the fans deserve at least this much for waiting for over 3 years.
Indeed, G9 does this as a hobby and for free. For that he would forever have my respect. However, I feel that after so many delays to GAIA Rangers, I think it would be a good time to resume it now even if it means dropping other projects temporarily. The fans deserve at least this much...
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Deleteyeah I think so too
DeleteG9 I understand that u lost your data after GAIA 5 and had to restart all over in terms of the model etc. I know it's difficult to start from scratch which might be a contributing factor to you doing other projects. However, be brave. We all have to start from somewhere! If you could, resuming GAIA 6 now would be splendid!
Deleteyes G9 please do go back to gaia rangers now instead of continuing the rest. You can come back to them later no problem. Gaia ranger was your best project yet (even better than sr-0) in terms of story and character etc. please return to work on gaia
Deleteg9 it has been too long since we have since the Dark Emperor in action together with corrupted GAIA pink and yellow, GAIA black, blue and red. (PS cant remember all their names because it has been too long since the last chapter)
DeleteSo please resume GAIA 6 now. I am sure many fans would appreciate it and would want SR-0 to be paused instead for GAIA Rangers to end first
Agreed. G9 and mpgrey I know that you do this as a hobby and not a job and of course it is your right to choose what you want to do. But it has been 3 years. And it would be great if you could take the opinions of your fans into account because I believe that G9 you are doing this for your fans as well which is why u are so awesome
DeleteI think majority of your fans want you to go back to GAIA Rangers G9 D: do think about it. Perhaps you can view this as a break from SR-0 instead
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Delete"Nobody is asking you to forsake your work in SR-0. To abandon means to give up on it completely. I can't speak for other people but at least what I hope is for you guys to continue GAIA Rangers, complete it and then go back to SR-0. I think the fans deserve at least this much for waiting for over 3 years." -Agreed
Deleteso based on what mpgrey has said, G9 didn't feel like making GAIA Rangers for the past 3 years. Now that's unfortunate and quite disappointing ):
DeleteGAIA 6 before SR-0 part 3? Yes please
DeleteSome of you seem to be mixing up facts.
DeleteWe wanted to tell the SR0 story before continuing with Gaia 6. The whole purpose of SR0 to begin with is to better create the universe in which Gaia takes place and to make story upon which Gaia 6 can be built without needing to rely on endless flashbacks.
So it's not that G9 needed a break from Gaia and that break is already lasting 3 years; the unforeseen length of the SR0 story together with the breaks G9 is taking inbetween the SR0 chapters is what has caused the 3 year wait.
The result is the same, but it's wrong to claim that G9 has taken a 3 year (and counting) break.
This is why I want to continue with SR0 so much: partly because of the SR0 story itself, but mostly because it clears the way for Gaia again.
The universe for GAIA is fine as it is. After reading SR-0 part 1 and 2, I don't see how it would make a significant difference to GAIA 6 other than the substantial delays it has resulted
DeleteSo it comes down to this.
DeleteWhy would you write a story that requires endless flashbacks?
Yeah mpgrey. I think you will need to first acknowledge that the fans are getting irritated at SR-0 no matter how good it is as it is getting in the way of GAIA 6.
DeleteThe next thing you need to acknowledge is whether you will continue to ignore the fans' pleas for GAIA 6 to be resumed now or that you will continue with SR-0 despite our requests.
Let's be honest here. It's already almost April now. If you continue to be adamant about releasing SR-0 part 3 and Zerion, GAIA's 6 release date will be probably be an absurd 2018. That's 6 years after GAIA 5 by the way. I think even you cannot deny how preposterous this sounds.
You might be wondering how I came to this date. Firstly, it's already almost April as mentioned earlier. Secondly, taking reference from SR-0 part 1 and 2, it took over a year to release part 2 after part 1. Third, G9 lost all his data after GAIA 5 so he has to start from scratch for GAIA 6 in terms of models etc. Fourth, as we are all too familiar with delays here, I think even 2018 is quite a generous estimation on my part.
Therefore, I think this is what they call an ultimatum which you will need to answer. Will you accede to your fans' requests to continue GAIA 6 NOW or disappoint them again?
Complete agree with this: "Therefore, I think this is what they call an ultimatum which you will need to answer. Will you accede to your fans' requests to continue GAIA 6 NOW or disappoint them again?"
DeleteMpgrey please answer this question straight up.
Indeed, I think mpgrey needs to make this clear to all of us. It has been 3 years already. Using "unforeseen length of SR-0" as a justification is pointless as it is about choice. I think from all of the comments recently, the fans have made it clear that it is about choice. You can temporarily delay SR-0 as you have done with GAIA 6 in the past and go back to GAIA 6 now. I am sure the fans would love that.
DeleteMpgrey claims, "This is why I want to continue with SR0 so much: partly because of the SR0 story itself, but mostly because it clears the way for Gaia again." I don't see how it clears the way for GAIA. From my opinion, it merely pushes back GAIA for another few years which is ridiculous considering how long it has been.
Personally, if continuing SR-0 is YOUR choice mpgrey where you ignore all our comments, I would say I am thoroughly disappointed and I will stop checking this blog anymore as there is no point in it since you can't take constructive criticism.
I too hope that G9 can continue GAIA 6 now rather than SR-0 part 3 ):
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DeleteG9/mpgrey the delay for gaia 6 is very different from the few weeks/months of delay for each of your other release that happens every time. Just the duration of this delay is too long. Please don't push gaia 6 back any more than it needs to. Now is the time to resume it!
Delete3 years G9! D: I believe that you can still go back to GAIA Rangers now.
ReplyDeleteNobody does a prequel before they are actually done with the main story as it will disrupt the storyline and also prevent fans from getting closure.
E.g: Peter Jackson only started work on the Hobbit after he was done with the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy
Another e.g: Wolverine only got his (shitty) origin story movie after the entire X-Men movie was completed
So G9, would u please consider dropping all your other projects no matter how much progress you have made on them to continue GAIA Rangers? I know it is difficult just as how Shinra had to terminate Yoru no Majin. However, I am not asking you to cancel or destroy them. You can come back to them later once GAIA is completed.
I have been with you for so many years waiting with each post hoping that there would be a post that says GAIA Rangers is getting released! But only to feel disappointment each time T.T I believe that in the past you said GAIA Rangers would only have 7 chapters if memory serves me right with talk of raven corruption, plant-based corruption etc (it was in one of your much older post! See? I told you I was with you for a long time!) So I feel GAIA Rangers is long overdue D: 3 years G9. 3 long years. Please don't make it a heart-wrenching 4.
Thank you for your love with Gaia Rangers.
DeleteI know that, Gaia is G9Mp main comics.
I realized that it's been too long.
There are so many problems that make it looks like we abandoning it. The data loss incident, the render engine changes (3Delight -> Octane), some basic model changes (V4/M4 to Gen 2). And last but not least... getting stuck of idea (bored of the theme).
Re-creating all the assets for GAIA is the main problem.
With SR0-3, I step by step can create some of the characters (Leona, DE, Alayeh, Al, Vora, and original SR girls).
I thought, you guys can enjoy the backstory, and also create a deep, wide lore of the Rangers universe.
So, when I finish re-model all the assets, I can finish all the saga.
But it'll take a long time, that's why I made other comics,
so G9mpcomic would be still exist, while I'm preparing all the assets.
But, if you want me to focus on Gaia, sure... I'll try.
There won't be any comic while you are waiting for it.
And it would be some time before it's getting release.
Do you agree?
To be honest, I don't feel comfortable when someone put a deadline / ultimatum like that.
I do love Gaia like you do. I want to end the saga as something perfect, memorable, and accomplished comic.
If I just want to release it as a cheap sequel, I can finish it in a week.
Just bunch of tasteless corruption, few boring sex renders from few angles, and done.
That's not what we want, right?
In the end, as a conclusion.
Okay, we'll release Gaia 6 before SR0-3. Postponed any other comics but it'll still take some time to finish it.
How about that?
Isn't zerion close to release? Why not finish that then after go back to the main comic.
DeleteI hate to contribute to the growing animosity on this typically genuine and friendly blog, but it appears the same anonymous is posting multiple times to inflate his biased and self-centered opinion.
DeleteG9...Mpgrey...keep doing what you've been doing. As fans who do nothing but reap the benefits of your hard and excellent work, we have no right to make selfish demands. I've been following this blog since the original shadow rangers and; therefore, have too endured this long wait period. I can’t speak on the behalf of all fans, but despite these long waits I honestly look forward to and embrace side projects. Not only do side projects offer fresh and original stories with a new cast of characters but they also allow you guys, the artists, to further develop your skills and fuel your artistic inspiration. Due to the originality of the themes, stories, and characters, sometimes I find myself preferring side projects! I personally was very excited when you announced Zerion IX was going to be larger than initially planned. Shadow rangers is a great story but at times I feel it becomes a bit blasé and constrains the artistic abilities and talents of G9 and Mpgrey. It pains me to say this since I do thoroughly enjoy the story, but if you have to drop anything, drop GAIA! The story is clearly restricting you and is creating false expectations of fans. Regardless of what actions are taken, fans will always be somewhat dissatisfied. Even if all side projects were dropped and GAIA were released, fans would be unhappy if the final chapters were rushed and botched for the sake of ensuring a quick release. If you try to satisfy everyone you’ll end up satisfying no one. I would rather you delay an additional 3 years than receive a botched, rushed, and tasteless finale. Don’t focus on GAIA if you don’t currently have the motivation or conviction. If you don’t have the motivation and inspiration to complete it, the final outcome will surely be of low quality. So please, do what comes naturally. Regardless of what is said by fans, they will read everything that is released (side project or not). I’m looking forward to Zerion IX, SR-0, and everything else that is to come. Keep up the good work!
Yes I think it would be a good idea to release Gaia 6 before SR0-3
Deleteg9, I wouldn't mind not having any comics during the time you are preparing for GAIA 6. I think that time spent on it would be time well spent. Just hope that it will not get delayed any further because of work on other projects
DeletePlease release GAIA 6 first
DeleteSounds like the same anonymous posting many comments pretending to from different people.
ReplyDeleteLike most fans,I like Gaia but Shadow ranger 0 is great too. Hopefully, it will have some great corruption (artfully mixed with smoking hot sex scenes).
I'm very curious for Zerion too and I wouldn't want G9 to post some half done job because someone feels he's more important than the rest and wants his favorite comic to be prioritized.
Wow, so much life suddenly in this otherwise pretty sleepy blog.
ReplyDeleteThank you everyone for still keeping it civil despite the growing negativity.
Also thank you, G9, for posting your version of the story so that it doesn't seem that I'm making everything up.
What everyone should know and realize about Gaia 6 is that hardly anything of the story has been made. Save for a few ideas about major events, we're basically looking at a blank paper.
As followers of this blog, you have likely read this somewhere before in other threads, but this is how we almost always work: not planning ahead but inventing on the spot. It's the only way both G9 and I can work.
If you look at the Shadow Rangers series or the first 4 chapters of Gaia, you can easily see this pattern. The story purely focuses on the events within the respective chapter and isn't setting anything up for later. It's a simple, haphazard way of making a story, and with G9's words in mind of how he can produce a chapter like that in about a week, you can also see why he was able to make the old Shadow Rangers chapters so quickly.
With Gaia 5, much more attention to the story was introduced. Characters were fleshed out a lot more to give them a human side with more personality. The structure of their universe, however, was still all over the place. It's full of loose ends, irregularities and paradoxes. The happy-go-lucky way of writing in the old chapters was coming back to haunt us.
That was the situation after Gaia 5 and before Gaia 6. G9 was getting bored of the old-fashioned structure so the bigger focus on story was going to remain, but (like always) the next chapter was hardly more than a blank paper AND we were stuck with a universe full of faults and holes.
To top this all off, he had introduced a new major plot element in Gaia 5 (the elf fragments) that came out of nowhere and needed much better setting up if it was to be taken seriously.
All of this founded SR0: a way for us to both help us with the way ahead and to repair all the holes that were left behind.
It's not just a fun distraction. It's not just a random flashback story. It is actually needed for the remainder of the Gaia story.
Unlike all other stories, SR0 has been written with a storyboard. Its goals were clear from the start. Then it was just a (cumbersome) matter of putting all puzzle pieces in the correct order to form the skeleton of the story, the backbone, the collection of all major story events.
The reason for the "unforeseen length", as one anonymous has quoted me, is that the amount of additional scenes got bigger than anticipated. The bare bones (to keep the metaphor going) were there, but the amount of flesh was unforeseen.
This same anonymous calls it a choice, but that is just partly true. You wouldn't like a bare bones story. The flesh is needed to make the major events stand out.
We needed to see more scenes of the DSF base in chaos to really grasp that the base is in trouble.
We needed to see more scenes with Megan's inner struggles to make her stand out as the main character.
We needed to see a bit more of the elf world so that it's not just a palace inhabited by people with pointy ears.
But it's also why I can claim with certainty that there isn't enough story left for a fourth chapter: at least with this story, I know in advance what's going to happen and how and when it will end. Gaia, however, is still mostly a blank except for loose ideas.
What G9 and I are doing right now is checking if it's possible to write Gaia 6 in the manner that we want but without using story material from SR0-3. I can tell you that we already bumped into problems here.
But we'll try to find a way out, mix things up, or push some things forward to Gaia 7.
However, if it turns out that we need to go out of our intended way too much and end up with a chapter that doesn't satisfy us, then we're not going to sacrifice the Gaia story just to make it before SR0-3.
Thanks for the clarification. Just release SR0-3 first...people will wait.
DeleteYou claim there is a need for constant flashbacks in GAIA 6 that's why there is SR-0, but now you say GAIA 6 is all but a blank paper? What?
DeleteYes, it's correct right?
DeleteAll of the important materials flashbacks are in SR0 1, 2 and (should be) in 3.
Now, we are trying to figure to fit story in GAIA 6 that's not need something from SR0-part 3 but already in part 1 and 2 (so there won't be a paradox or plot hole).
That's why we need to start everything from 0 again.
I have finished modeled some of the important characters.
If the "scripts" is finished, I can start rendering.
So, yeah it's still a blank paper comics now. ^_^
I guess it now makes more sense since you redid it.
DeleteSorry for the confusing words, English is not my main language...everyone knows that >-<
DeletePlease consider releasing Gaia 6 before SR0-3
ReplyDeleteI think we need a poll here (healthy poll).
ReplyDeleteNot all fans here want to rush GAIA 6.
I myself enjoying SR0 and want it to be continued.
Agreed! SR0 first.
Delete+1. If SR-0 is essential to understanding GAIA 6, we shouldn't be rushing a GAIA 6 release.
DeleteI really don't know how to put a poll where everyone only can post one. >_<
DeleteI think we don't have any RIGHT to post something AGGRESSIVE to the man who make something great for free.
ReplyDeletePlease be chill guys.
I'll just add my two cents:
ReplyDeleteI don't mind waiting for Sr-0 and I'm curious to see what Zerion will be like.
I'd answer to one part of mpgrey's comment that I didn't really like.
I think G9 did a very good job with the Shadow Ranger comics.
Yes, it's nice that the plot is more developped with your comics but now we spend less time on the characters and their corruption.
G9's old way of focusing on one character after the other was a good structure for a corruption comic too. Now, it's often too sequenced and we can't always get into it as well.
There is also less important sex scenes. In SR-0 we sometimes get secondary sex scenes that aren't linked to the transformation of the character we follow by the villain. We need the erotic content, the "sex" to go hand in hand with the corruption, otherwise we don't care for it, it's like pissing in the wind.
I love you work and I can't wait to see more of it, Either be it Sr-0 or Zerion, but I think that what I said could be useful.
+1 to this
DeleteI like better story.
But sex scene that aren't linked to the transformation is make the story become weaker, corruption-wise.
Oh, but I didn't pass any judgment here. You don't here me saying that G9's old work was bad or anything. Don't forget that I started out as a hooked reader too, thanks to those same older chapters.
DeleteI merely said that they have a very basic and simple structure. It's a structure that, in fact, lends itself perfectly for corruption comics. It's very focused on this one goal and is quick to get to the action.
But it lends itself rather poorly to any sort of deeper story, to the making of a fictional world where characters are more than just "target girl from chapter 2" and little more than a collection of easy tropes and are as shallow as can be.
And the thing is, G9 doesn't always want to make these pure corruption stories. You can only repeat the same trick over and over before it starts feeling mundane. He wanted (and wants) more attention to the overall plot.
So it's perfectly okay to hold the Shadow Rangers series and the earlier Gaia chapters in high regard, but they were rather limited in a department that the artist has now found in works like SR-0.
Who knows if he is (and I am) just going through a rebellious phase at the moment. ;P
But we don't really care much about the side characters. It's all main character's corruption and transformation. So the side characters just consume pages and are a distraction to me at least. Especially since their corruption is usually sub-par and they are weak.
DeleteBtw, the movie reference is actually quite appropriate LOL. Shadow rangers is the original, SR-0 is the prequel, GAIA is the sequel but it got stopped halfway... So please resume GAIA.
I think this would be the general sentiment as well IF G9 started SR-0 before GAIA, most would want SR-0 to be completed first before proceeding on the GAIA. So it's not about which is better, I would presume it's about closure especially after such a long lull period.
+1 to this
ReplyDeleteI like better story.
But sex scene that aren't linked to the transformation is make the story become weaker, corruption-wise.
Far prefer gaia over SR0 so it would be nice if you could finish gaia first
ReplyDeleteYou can continue SR0 after GAIA is done. After all GAIA is your main story right? GAIA Rangers FTW can't wait to see Sophie again!
ReplyDeleteWow!So many comments to an otherwise quiet post.I think this is a testament as to how many people feel strongly about GAIA rangers.I find it awesome how people are still passionate about GAIA rangers despite it being 3 years since the last chapter was released.Good job g9/mp!
ReplyDeleteYES!!!!!! GAIA 6 for 2016 PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
ReplyDelete+1000
DeleteAgree with this. It would be awesome if we could see gaia 6 this year
DeleteI don't think that SR-0 is another story. For me, it is a flashback of GAIA (and shadow rangers). If he changes the title to GAIA 6 and has the same story as SR-0, just added the phrase "long time ago". Will it make you feel better? It is just the way to tell the story (like in Star wars). And SR-0 is really amazing comic (May be the best, but I love almost all your comics, so it is hard to tell). So of course, I prefer SR-0 3 or Zerion first. Let the artist do what he want always make the better work. And everyone love the better comics.
DeleteAgreed. G9 should do what comes naturally. By doing what he feels like doing, the end result would be better and of higher quality.
DeleteIf G9 has made more progress in SR0-3 than GAIA 6, then he should definitely release that first. As he said, if he does GAIA 6 before SR0-3 he is pretty much starting from scratch...
DeleteEven if it's from scratch I still prefer g9 to release gaia first as sr0 will set gaia back by at least a year. So g9 please resume your main comics. After 3 years, I think it is finally time
DeleteThe mere fact that he essentially has NOTHING done for GAIA pretty much assures it will take at least a year to release anyway. He even said that if he drops everything else it will still take a very long time to release.
DeleteI disagree that GAIA will be of poorer quality than GAIA. G9 has improved his rendering and images etc after 3 more years of experience. Thus, I feel not matter what project he works on, it will be good. It is just that I feel he has delayed GAIA for too long which has resulted in disappointment and annoyance from some. So G9 GAIA 6 please.
DeleteThe decision is G9's. Why do we feel the need to force his hand with ultimatums and threats?
DeleteHe has to start eventually, might as well start now. No point delaying GAIA any further. If he takes a year to release GAIA, at least it's not 2 years which will be the result of SR0. Let's be honest, the reason for such a substantial delay for GAIA Rangers is the result of all his other projects in the past 3 years. We have to acknowledge that 3 years is indeed an absurd amount of time to wait for his MAIN comic which stopped halfway out of nowhere and without a particularly compelling reason (Perhaps it's the fear of starting from scratch after losing his data). I hope after the massive reaction in this post, G9 will be stimulated to work on GAIA Rangers once again. Even if SR0 is near completion (say 80%) I would say even an additional day of delay on GAIA as a result of releasing SR0 is quite unacceptable as I think GAIA Rangers has been sacrificed for long enough. It is the MAIN series. It should take priority especially considering the fact that it has undergone such a massive delay
ReplyDeleteApparently the fans know better than the artist and creator...
DeleteWhat right do we have to force G9 to sit down, thrust a pen in his hand, and say "work on this!"?
DeleteBy the way, seriously...
DeleteIs it true a verb for a pen is thrust? Not hold a pen?
Isn't thrust mean something like stab? You know thrust a sword?
Weew... English is so complex X.X
wheeew...
ReplyDeleteNow some of you want Gaia6 first, some RE-0 first, and Zerion >_<
Just do a poll! and see what to do, or ignore them and just do what you'd like to do...
DeleteWe are not paying you... This is your hobbie and your rules xd
Agreed. G9 this is your hobby so you should do what you want. Some of these comments should serve as a testament that there are plenty of fans with the opposite opinion. Many clearly want to see Zerion and SR0.
DeleteOh, one thing to be clarified is...
ReplyDeleteIt's not always true that when I did other comics is the reason why other comics getting postponed.
The main reason why I made other comics is...
-I got stuck with one comic
-Have no idea to continue the comic
-Have technical difficulty
-Getting bored for the theme
So, even if I don't make other comic, the "postponed" comic will still be postponed.
That's why, even if I'm forced to do Gaia 6 first, it doesn't mean it'll be released very soon.
if you release gaia 6 first I think it should be obvious that even if the release wont be very soon its release will still be earlier than if you do zerion > sr0 > gaia 6
Delete-I got stuck with one comic (u no longer have 1 comic now)
-Have no idea to continue the comic (it has been 3 years I hope that 3 years is enough for new idea)
-Have technical difficulty (hopefully 3 years is enough for you to overcome technical difficulty)
-Getting bored for the theme (it has been 3 years, i think boredom should not be a problem now if not maybe we can only pray for divine intervention for gaia 6 release)
no point crying over spilled milk. gaia 6 has been delayed for 3 years that is a fact that cannot be denied. the crux is what will you do to remedy it. will you delay it further?
forced is a very strong word. nobody here can force you to do anything we are just readers, you are the author. you can decide tomorrow you will never make comics again and we cant do jack shit about it. you can do sr0 by all means but what i just want to highlight is with every single release you make that isn't gaia 6, you are disappointing many fans
fyi you have made 9 releases in the last 3 years ever since gaia 5. if there is one thing that i think u shld be to do is make your decision and make it promptly. don't put it off like how you do to gaia 6
"every single release you make that isn't gaia 6, you are disappointing many fans"-Agreed
Delete"if there is one thing that i think u shld be to do is make your decision and make it promptly. don't put it off like how you do to gaia 6"-Agreed
+1
DeleteOld fan here G9
DeleteHope you have been doing well
Even though I wouldn't want to compel you in any way to release GAIA 6 first, I can't help but express my desire for it.
I have been waiting 3 years for it and all this talk about the possibility of it being released earlier than expected really fuels my excitement for it.
I really hope you will resume work on it and finish it before returning to shadow rangers 0
Cheers
http://g9comics.blogspot.sg/2013/07/gaia-6_26.html
DeleteTHis link brings back so much nostalgia and memories XD. I find it very comforting that there are people clamouring and pushing for GAIA 6 as I feel exactly the same. With each new release I felt hope and then despair when I saw the blog post that it isn't GAIA 6. Hoodwinked, bamboozled, deceived...G9/MP I hope you do right by those who have been going to the above link continuously and checking for updates in this agonizing 3 years only to be let down
BTW G9 if you are starting from scratch Mimi's new model in the link above is too hardcore. I mean skulls?!! I think your previous model as shown in the 2 links below is much better. Mimi is cute and a little naughty XD. Feathers > Skulls (D:)
http://g.e-hentai.org/s/5fa1ed7705/580172-99
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5UChMTHhGZE/TxT7e119DtI/AAAAAAAAAAc/2wSU8rKMUf8/s1600/Promo+1+-+Yumiko-Mimi-+Light+Pink.jpg
Okay, I'll try my best to remodel her.
DeleteThe problem with feather is, it'll be also used by some other corrupted ranger, since it's bird related.
So, it won't be fun if two corrupted rangers wear the same themed costume.
But I'll consider not to put mimi on the hardcore themed outfit.
I still try to find a sexy/gothic spider outfit (not spiderman >_<)
Thanks for the idea.
you are awesome *muacks*
DeleteThis is a little embarrassing to be honest. It's obvious we have some people posting multiple times under "anonymous."
ReplyDeleteG9, don't listen to the people asking you to jump back into Gaia. You have your reasons for doing SR0 first and you should stick with that because that's what YOU want to do.
Obviously, you should finish and release Zerion first. It sounds like that's coming fairly soon and jumping all over the place would suck creatively.
So I'd say release Zerion, then SR0, then finally go back to Gaia as that seemed to be your original plan.
Those wanting Gaia now just need to suck it up and deal with it. This is all free, people. Stop being selfish.
Can't wait for Zerion, G9. Hope it's out soon.
I think it is quite pathetic Bob that you would include what g9 should or should not do. Aren't you doing the same things as all the comments above? I would call this the perfect example of pot calling the kettle black. I don't know how many anonymous there are but if you are going to assert your view I don't see how you even have the moral grounds to ask g9 not to listen to others. Suck it up if GAIA is released first.
DeleteG9 I agree that you can do a poll and we will clearly see if the traction for GAIA is truly substantial
Uh, no. Because I'm telling him to do the same thing he was already planning to do.
Deletedoesn't change the fact that u are telling him what to do fool
DeleteIt is quite fked up if you make fans wait 5 year for you main series G9 pleas don't do that
ReplyDeleteNo, it's fucked up that you're bitching about a free story. Grow up
Delete+1000. Well said.
DeleteSR0 can wait.I am sure after experiencing the long delay for GAIA,we are accustomed to waiting 3 years for something.So delay SR0 for a max of 3 years and in this 3 years finish up GAIA.I would think this is a good solution
ReplyDeleteI have been a huge fan of yours ever since shadow rangers day G9. Hope to see GAIA 6 first. It really has been too long
ReplyDeleteDAMN! It's about time for all this uproar on GAIA 6!!! I thought only I was feeling this way! GAIA 6 FIRST PLS
ReplyDeleteG9 should do what he feels comfortable with. If he's experiencing writer's block or lack of interest in regards to GAIA then he should work on Zerion or SR0.
ReplyDeleteA writer's block after 3 years.
ReplyDeleteGod save the queen!
Or maybe we should pray to George R R Martin instead?
Pray to who ever you want. 3 years. 5 years. 10 years. There is no definite time span of writers block. And maybe he just has lack of interest in the story right now. If we feel the need to compel G9 in a certain direction and expect him to obey our dictated requests at the expense of his personal life and obligations...then maybe he should start charging a fee for the comics.
ReplyDeleteThere is no need to sacrifice his personal life and obligations. Just SR0 will do. If he decides to release GAIA 6 5 years later, I would very much rather he not create anything else in this 5 years. Why? Because it is bloody ridiculous to delay your main production so significantly for a prequel halfway through the story. If u just started GAIA, fine. But GAIA is supposedly 2 chapters from ending and all of a sudden *poof* you compel fans to wait 5, 10 years for the next issue. You have no idea how many of such authors have been flamed. I think G9 would consider himself quite fortunate to have a relatively tolerant fanbase. If G9 claims to still lack interest in GAIA now, I will stop reading any of his publications because he would be laughingstock of all authors. Even those who are not as good as him. Such a Pity
DeleteIs that some kind of threat? If you're not satisfied then go elsewhere. The apparent lack of support and understanding of this fanbase is painful. G9 has no obligation to release or continue any of his stories. He takes no commissions and charges no fees.
DeleteDid you just write "such a pity" to the man who give great work for free. Embarassing.
DeleteWhat is embarrassing is your pitiful grammar and shit spelling haha
DeleteIf this fan base is so tolerate and understanding...maybe we should ask G9 what he wants to do?
ReplyDeleteHey G9! It has been awhile. With all the talk about GAIA 6 I can't help but also throw my support under the GAIA bandwagon as I am a bigger GAIA fan than SR0! However, guys I think we should dial down the condescension and animosity towards G9. It is fine to voice your opinion and support but let's keep it civil before it gets out of hand
ReplyDeleteI think that he already knows that someone want GAIA 6 first, and someone want SR-0 or Zerion first. So that should be enough. Just stop discussion in this topic before it goes too far and let he do what he want, please.
ReplyDeleteGaia rangers over Shadow rangers 0 anytime anyday please
ReplyDeleteG9 please finish Shadow Rangers 0 first.
DeleteNah finishing Shadow Rangers will cause GAIA's 6 release to be worse than it should have been. GAIA 6 first thanks!
Delete+1
DeleteNah G9, finish at least one chapter of Zerion first. I'm curious about that.
ReplyDeleteGuys chill. What Long said above is right. We have made it known that we all have different opinions on what G9 should do. Just let it go and leave the final decision to him.
ReplyDeleteG9 it has been a long time since I posted anything here.
ReplyDeleteI have followed your works from the start of shadow rangers and honestly, I hope that gaia rangers will be wrapped up first before sr0 as the lack of closure for gaia rangers is quite unfortunate. Thank you and keep up the good work
I can't WAIT for Zerion. Don't worry about GAIA right now
ReplyDeleteFor Zerion...
ReplyDeleteActually I want to release it as a single issue.
It'll be a quite long comic, but to be honest, I do really enjoy it.
This is the same case when I made Violet.
It's purely what me, myself want to make. From the idea, characters, story, even the money scenes.
And I'm quite sure you'll like it too, really. ^_^
I can't WAIT for Gaia. Don't worry about Zerion and SR0
ReplyDeleteOkay, I just replied to the one above me. ^_^
Deleteu said u want to release it as a single issue but u didn't say when. I assume it will be released 3 years later
DeleteG9 if you enjoy making Zerion and you truly want to make it, then do that! It's your hobby, do what you enjoy!
DeleteSo long as it is released after GAIA Rangers has ended
DeleteSo I guess you make the rules now? I'm pretty sure this is G9's site and his FREE comic. He can do (and should do) whatever he wants. We have no right to stop him from working on something he truly wants to make.
Deleteok Judge Judie I think you have posted enough of your same rhetoric it's actually getting kinda boring
DeleteWe can all say the same about you. I wonder how many of these "anonymous" posts are yours. The minute you start paying for these comics, you have a right to bitch all you want. In the meantime, stfu and grab a bra advertisement if you don't have anymore beat off material. Looks like we'll all be waiting for quite some time now since G9 has been pushed to his limit. Good job!
DeleteHaha so sorry when I meet dimwits like you I just cannot control the urge to correct u so for every single stupid post u have, I will have to reply. It's called enlighten-the-dumbass syndrome. Keep crying and whining about the wait time small boy. Learn some patience while u are at it. Ever heard the phrase pushing your limits? It's a positive thing moron :D Hope you learnt something useful today. Unfortunately, I don't think u can learn them from the bra advertisements u peruse ever so often
DeleteGAIA ASAP PLZ
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